28:30的訪談 主要是談論Joyce Meyer的書 Making Good Habits, Breaking Bad Habits:
14 New Behaviors That Will Energize Your Life
最主要的概念是 不要老是想著如何改掉壞習慣，
而是藉由培養好習慣， 讓壞習慣不再影響我們：
If we make enough good habits,
the bad ones just are not gonna find room in our lives.
當然在這樣的過程， 是需要時間和毅力。
因此Joyce Meyer鼓勵大家：
Set your mind and keep it set.
We must learn to think positively.
也提醒大家習慣的重要。
Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.
訪談中的Q & A 也很值得一聽。
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